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	<title>Comments on: the death march of the penguins</title>
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	<description>the only solution is a change of culture</description>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.endgame.org.uk/2008/08/the-death-march-of-the-penguins/comment-page-1/#comment-142</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fantastic, it really helps to get some positive feedback, and although many posts are just links to other website content, of a related nature, we&#039;d very much appreciate others&#039; contributions.

no pressure, i&#039;ll sign you up as a user, and feel free to post whatever relevant content.... whenever, or not, whatever you can, want, or like... if we dont agree with something you say, we can always debate with you, or at worst use our admin rights to delete  :)

we also agree that humans work best in tribes. the elites of civilisation have done the damnedest to break up communities over the world, but many are still intact, and many people are seeking intentional communities nowadays... 

everything we write here is a fine line between informing people and scaring the shit out of people, or provoking hostile defensive reactions. humans dont like change, but unfortunately for those who find it difficult to embrace, change is what we need.... voluntary change would be a lot less painful than forced by economics or climate change etc... those of us who accept things now, and start connecting to our pseudo-tribes, will be far better placed to weather the storm that is no longer on the horizon for many, but directly overhead, with much worse to come....

welcome onboard, we&#039;ll sign you up and email you details now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fantastic, it really helps to get some positive feedback, and although many posts are just links to other website content, of a related nature, we&#8217;d very much appreciate others&#8217; contributions.</p>
<p>no pressure, i&#8217;ll sign you up as a user, and feel free to post whatever relevant content&#8230;. whenever, or not, whatever you can, want, or like&#8230; if we dont agree with something you say, we can always debate with you, or at worst use our admin rights to delete  <img src='http://www.endgame.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>we also agree that humans work best in tribes. the elites of civilisation have done the damnedest to break up communities over the world, but many are still intact, and many people are seeking intentional communities nowadays&#8230; </p>
<p>everything we write here is a fine line between informing people and scaring the shit out of people, or provoking hostile defensive reactions. humans dont like change, but unfortunately for those who find it difficult to embrace, change is what we need&#8230;. voluntary change would be a lot less painful than forced by economics or climate change etc&#8230; those of us who accept things now, and start connecting to our pseudo-tribes, will be far better placed to weather the storm that is no longer on the horizon for many, but directly overhead, with much worse to come&#8230;.</p>
<p>welcome onboard, we&#8217;ll sign you up and email you details now.</p>
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		<title>By: dvd</title>
		<link>http://www.endgame.org.uk/2008/08/the-death-march-of-the-penguins/comment-page-1/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>dvd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;ve certainly been listening! I&#039;ve been visiting this site for quite a few months now, and have found some really interesting posts.  Keep up the good work!

I haven&#039;t got much of a landbase at the moment being based at both my family home and at university, but I have a fair few veg containers going, and have 2 seasons worth of fruit foraging and making chutneys and jellies.  To get over the issue of land, I&#039;m working on project within the student community modelled on &quot;GROFUN&quot; in Bristol, in which a group come together and visit each others gardens regularly in turn to give the whole place a permaculture makeover in a short term otherwise impossible on one&#039;s own.  I&#039;m also involved in getting the city on the road to be a Transition City.  As you say, its best to act local with fairly small actions.

In my view humans tend to work best in tribal style units, so in order to survive the common troubles ahead it will be necessary to form &#039;urban tribes&#039; based on growing food ad mutual aid.  Trying to get people to do this without scaring the shit out of them or making them hostile is a challenge however!

The multiple user accounts suggestion sounds quite interesting, as it could bring some diversity and remove some of the pressure off you to come up with all the material.  I could give it a shot perhaps - but no promises on quality or regularity of posting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;ve certainly been listening! I&#8217;ve been visiting this site for quite a few months now, and have found some really interesting posts.  Keep up the good work!</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t got much of a landbase at the moment being based at both my family home and at university, but I have a fair few veg containers going, and have 2 seasons worth of fruit foraging and making chutneys and jellies.  To get over the issue of land, I&#8217;m working on project within the student community modelled on &#8220;GROFUN&#8221; in Bristol, in which a group come together and visit each others gardens regularly in turn to give the whole place a permaculture makeover in a short term otherwise impossible on one&#8217;s own.  I&#8217;m also involved in getting the city on the road to be a Transition City.  As you say, its best to act local with fairly small actions.</p>
<p>In my view humans tend to work best in tribal style units, so in order to survive the common troubles ahead it will be necessary to form &#8216;urban tribes&#8217; based on growing food ad mutual aid.  Trying to get people to do this without scaring the shit out of them or making them hostile is a challenge however!</p>
<p>The multiple user accounts suggestion sounds quite interesting, as it could bring some diversity and remove some of the pressure off you to come up with all the material.  I could give it a shot perhaps &#8211; but no promises on quality or regularity of posting!</p>
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